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Mazda Kabura Concept at NAIAS: "This one isn't Rotary"
Submitted by Dan Mazzella on Sunday, January 8, 2006 - 3:24pm

Day one of the North American International Autoshow (NAIAS) brought us the unveiling of the long awaited Mazda Kabura, a 3+1 seat piston powered concept coupe. The concept shown at the autoshow is not rotary powered, but the comment from Maury Callam was "this one isn't rotary powered." Mazda needs to make a business case for making this car in a rotary powered version, and it won't happen without your input. Take a look at our day-one photo gallery of the Mazda Press Conference and booth, (Click here) then leave your feedback. There needs to be a flood of messages, even if the message is short, it will count.

We will have more coverage of the Detroit Autoshow tomorrow, including more technical information on the Kabura. Click through to see images from today.







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you know what mazda. if no rotary, you are dead meat.
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January 9, 2006 - 7:03pm
i am being very strong here. do you know why i bought your RX8? it is a fairly "SLOW" sports car. it eats "gas" like crazy. it is even been critized as a "SEDAN". BUT I AM LOVING IT. you know why. i love my car because of the amazing music from its engine. it is more like JET ENGINE LIKE SOUND instead of anyother thing. it goes WOOOOOOO. and it makes more sense than all other pistons. if this car becomes a stupid piston, i will not consider it at all. i would rather but a nissan GTR or the new mustang 350GT. i won't give a crap about Mazda,if you don't have the graceful and divine rotary. i am loving my car. i would buy it even if it is going to be priced as a porche.


btw, i need to give you tumbs up for the exterior. superb.
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GIVE IT THE ROTARY
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January 9, 2006 - 6:36pm
MAZDA! Unless you have plans for another RX-? you NEED to give this car a rotary engine...the rotary is the lifeblood of the RX-series of vehicles! I can personally say that without the rotary engine I will NOT be interested in the vehicle, but give it the rotary engine, and I will own one of these cars.
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Mazda, if you can give me a r
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January 9, 2006 - 5:56pm
Mazda, if you can give me a rotary-powered (even if it is just the 4port renesis, to cut costs) Kabura for under the price of an RX-8, I'll be on your pre-order list in a heartbeat.
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Absolutely stunning
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January 9, 2006 - 5:29pm
I been through all the photos here and on Kaburaforums.com and there isn't one angle I don't like of this car. I really hope when they put this into production, not too much is changed body-wise (obviously the lights will have to change). I don't even care so much what engine they put into it, as long as it keep it light both the piston and the rotary will power this thing just fine.
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this is a beautiful concept c
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January 9, 2006 - 5:11pm
this is a beautiful concept car. I have always been a fan of mazda and their amazing technologies (especially rotary) and how far they have made it with something different from the norm. the styling is suberb, and I would assume the handling is just as good as any recent mazda sports car if not better, but the current engine needs attention. seeing that mazda have already developed several known good rotary engines, why not update one and put it in? thats the whole idea of the RX series cars isn't it? thats what people know about them, is for that silly wankle rotary engine ;) keep it different! thanks.
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Take Advantage of What You Got
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January 9, 2006 - 5:01pm
Mazda, you must realize that you are one of the few, if not only producers of the rotary engine. You have gathered a growing following for the unique and amazing engine. I cannot stress enough the importance of continuing the production of rotary powered cars, and the Kabura looks like a winner. I myself own a 1987 RX-7, and at 130k miles, it runs strong, clean, fast and handles better than any car i have owned. When i tell people that the car is powered by rotors, they are amazed and often do not understand the concept. I hope that in the future everyone will know the power and beauty of a rotary engine, and i will continue to support any manufacturer who can produce these cars. Good Luck!
Daniel
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Guarnteed Customer if you have a rotary
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January 9, 2006 - 4:39pm
Mazda,
I have been a long time rotary fan, have owned 2 rx7s in the past, and let me tell you I love this new car mazda! However It wont be sitting in my garage unless there is the pure essence of mazda behind it, the rotary engine. If you put a rotary in this car, mazda you have a GUARNTEED sale. We rotary lovers have been begging for a 2 door rotary car for years ever since the FD was taken away from us. Please, make every rotary lovers dream come true!
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If No Rotary I won't buy
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January 9, 2006 - 2:06pm
If this car doesn't come with a rotary I will not buy, and will keep my rx8. If it does I will buy and give my rx8 to my wife. If this thing comes out with a piston motor I will buy my wife a car from a different manufacturer, probably VW, since that's what she want's.

PLEASE PAY ATTENTION MAZDA YOU WILL LOSE ME AS A CUSTOMER WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A ROTARY AVAILABLE!!!
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www.rx8web.com
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January 9, 2006 - 1:42pm
My initial thoughts were that it was ok. The more I flipped through the images the more it grew on me.
Now it absolutely stunning. Too many things about the design that I like to mention. Don't care for the fogged headlamp cluster & Wicker seats :D, but not much I would change beyond that. Well, Say for the fact that it is missing the Rotary Engine.
Beautiful Concept that should hit the streets with very little change.
A 20B or Renesis Turbo Charged should be the Main Power Plant for this Beautiful poor-mans Veyron look-alike!
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Beautiful!
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January 9, 2006 - 11:33am
Simply stunning. Please release this vehicle to the public with the exact same styling. Bar none this is the best design at the Detroit Show. Its perfect. It seats four, has a large storage are, and I'm sure it will be light and powerful. Please make it affordable. Hell just make it!
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No rotary?!
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January 9, 2006 - 9:39am
Mazda... if it ain't got a rotary... even as a top model option... then it ain't worth my attention.

I do love the RWD sports cars thing... we need more RWD cars in the world. But at $20k... come on... you can get a base RX-8 for $25k MSRP... walk away with a good deal for nearly $20k. You're not convincing me as to why I would want this car instead of an RX-8... keep trying.
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Please build this car Mazda!
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January 9, 2006 - 9:04am
Please build this car Mazda!

I need an inexpensive, rwd, Japanese sports car to replace my 240sx in the next few years and this car fits the bill perfectly. I can't afford an RX-8, don't want a Miata because it's a convertible, and I am not going to compromise and get a fwd sports car. Although I yearn to own another rotary (had an '84 RX-7), I understand why you would use the MZR engine. It would appeal to more people, have better fuel economy, and probably cost less to build. The 3+1 seating is a great idea as well if you could practically relocate the glove box and a/c condenser which typically reside in the removed dash area.



PCT - Bachelor of Automotive Technology Management Student
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Beautiful concept and hats of
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January 9, 2006 - 8:37am
Beautiful concept and hats off to Mazda for having the vision to put forth at GREAT concept. I love how the back resembles the Skyline (G35). Please incorporate a few more "Gen 3" styling cues and take it to the next level by offering it up as a normally aspirated 3 rotor (or 1.5 liter two rotor) and I'm there. Great start, but show me more and soon (hopefully). Two Mazda's in my garage already (Gen 3 RX and '91 BRG Miata), but there's still room for a third. Stay true to your heart and build another rotary car soon!!
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rotary engine
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January 9, 2006 - 6:59am
I really think the rotary engine represents Mazda's corporate identity, it is unique and beautifull in everyway, I have wondered for years why a rotary engine option wasnt available for all of your cars personally, id buy anything with a rotary, I just love them
I have owned an RX3 coupe, RX4 sedan, and now im the proud owner of a S5 RX7 turbo, I wouldnt own another car again besides a rotary, mazda pull ur chin into gear and get some rotary options out there
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Needs the Wankel
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January 9, 2006 - 4:41am
A compact, lightweight (2,500 lbs or so) RWD coupe is just what we need in the US. A boinger would be acceptable for $20,000, to compare favorably with the Civic Si.

But this car so clearly deserves to be the next RX-7, or if Mazda intends to keep that name for a future flagship sports car, perhaps call it an RX-3 or RX-4. It needs a rotary more than it needs that third seat.

I know comments don't count for much, but I'd be very inclined to vote with my dollars if it has the 232 hp Renesis - even though I already own a 2004 Mazda RX-8. With the Miata's engine, even with more power... not so much.
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Kabura Concept
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January 9, 2006 - 2:20am
I am the owner of nzrotaries.com, we have been serving the rotary community since 1999, but have been involved with the engine for much longer.

The rotary needs to be released again as a super car. It is the flagship of the Mazda corporation and has a legion following around the world. I have thousands people from all four corners of the globe entering my site monthly, whether it be the United States Military, or a small country like Denmark the demand for the rotary is out there. The Mazda 6 (MPS) has been fitted with a turbo, why release another car bearing the same hallmarks? The rotary engine is unique, just as the Nissan Skyline GTR or a Corvette, its more than just a car. The rotary community awaits for the next big evolution in the engine, the RX8 was a step forward for the rotary, but it failed to bring the breath taking flare of the RX7. I urge you Mazda, do not neglect your flagship engine, your loyal fans and enthusiasts are hoping for Mazda to show why it stands out from the rest.

CC Rotaries
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There's no need for this car
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January 8, 2006 - 8:37pm
Frankly, as much as I'd like to see this car with a rotary, Mazda is better off enhancing the RX-8. With a ~300 hp RX-8, I doubt few would care if the Kabura made it into production or not. I think Mazda should save the concept design for a next gen RX-8.

To be honest, the look of the Kabura is no match for the FD RX-7. Mazda needs to go back to the drawing board if they want to top that beauty.

Sorry, just my honest humble opinion.
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Mazda I like the looks and di
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January 8, 2006 - 8:29pm
Mazda I like the looks and direction of this concept, but if you're going to build a high end sports car it needs be powered by a rotary engine. Even a high end sports sedan would benefit from the rotary engine's smoothness.
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Made for a rotary
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January 8, 2006 - 8:20pm
This concept really captures the spirit of the original RX-7, it seems like it was made with a rotary in mind.

I'd buy one if I could get it without pistons.
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Need Rotary version too
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January 8, 2006 - 4:14pm
This looks like it should have been the long awaited for RX-7, but was stripped of the (supercharged or higher output NA) rotary engine for some crazy reason and got morphed into a pistion car. At a minimum offer a turbo-4 (Kabura) AND a rotary (RX-7) versions. You've got to know you've plenty of peps laying in wait for the return of the rotary rocket RX-7! Mazda please don't loose your soul!
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Yes to a rotary.
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January 9, 2006 - 6:25pm
This car needs to be built and it needs a rotary option. When I get done with college next year, I'll need something to park next to my '79 Rx-7 and I think this car would be great. I would like to see Mazda build a car that captures the essence of the first generation Rx-7. What I want is a small, light-weight, rotary powered sports car. It is time to get back to the basics of what a sports car is. I would like to see this car offered stripped down like my '79... no power steering, no power locks, and no power windows. If you made this car rotary powered, I WOULD BUY IT!!
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I love rotaries and I think t
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January 10, 2006 - 8:18pm
I love rotaries and I think that the Rx8 is a great car. I certainly do not think that a new Rx7 should look anything like an Rx8 though. Give us Rx7 guys a break. We have been hearing about those weird fenders for a couple of years now. The Rx7 was a beautifully styled car. It never featured edgy styling and I don't think that it ever should. The Rx8 and cars like it do well with that kind of styling. The Toyota Celica is another example or a sucessfull car that uses edgy styling. Those cars however make sacrafices that an Rx7 should not. For example the Rx8 has a back seat, backward opening rear doors and a roof line that doesn't slope down much so that it can better accomodate rear passengers . Thats great! It helps us sell to a segment that wants to be able to carry the kids to school or go out with friends. Its a much more practical car than the Rx7 ever was. The Toyota Celica too has a back seat and a roof line to match. The Celica even gave up rear wheel drive decades ago. No big deal for someone who needs a practical and fun car that gets great gas mileage!

An Rx7 needs to be a more dedicated sports car. You want to put people in the back? Fine. Offer a 2+2. Maybe it will be a little tight but thats ok. Its a sports car. You don't want to pay the big bucks for the turbo model? Get the N/A version. Not all sports cars have to be super fast. The first generation Rx7 was and the Mx5 still is proof of that.

You need a car that will sell. Not another 3rd gen. The 3rd gen was a beautifull car but it was too expensive and too impractical. The first gen was a great car too and it sold great! It would be a fantastic sales generator for Mazda today if it weren't for the Miata already taking its place. And again the Rx8 is fun and practicall... but weird looking. We don't need a weird looking Rx8 derived Rx7. We need Styling that matches or surpasses that of the 3rd gen Rx7 and one that offers the flexability in options of the 2nd gen. That will sell for sure!

I can understand the desire to use Rx8 parts or atleast the Rx8 assembly line or assembly techniques in the Rx7. But please don't use so much of the styling. The Mx5 uses a lot of parts that are similar to those in the Rx8 and it works great dispite hanging on to the styling. But steer away from that styling a bit more with the Rx7. Putting it on the Mx5 was pushing it enough.

Oh and if you're thinking of putting a piston engine in that thing, forget about it. Do you remember the 808? How about the 618? No? Neither does any one else. Thats because no one liked them. We don't need to learn that lesson twice
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Rotary Kabura
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February 1, 2006 - 7:14pm
Mazda builds some of the most innovative cars. I would love to see the Kabura concept as a Rx-3 in future years. The rotary is a engine thats makes spirited driving very easy, it spins so fast and the response is instant. A lightweight compact rwd with rotary would be my replacement for my Miata when she's paid.
Putting a renesis would spread R&D costs, and make Kabura a serious contender in the compact coupe class, easily able to beat Scion tC or the Civic.
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TBH, rotary or not, I hope th
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February 2, 2006 - 12:13am
TBH, rotary or not, I hope that's not the new RX-7. The hatch back design is fine, but not for a 7, not for a sports car.
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build the kabura
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March 3, 2006 - 7:34pm
build the kabura and I will buy one. I'm looking at getting a sporty coupe to go with my mazda 3. It should meet the following:
1. light less than 2500 lbs
2. rear wheel drive
3. at least 180 horsepower
4. cost around $20k, and have a bare bones track model available
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