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Mazda Kabura Concept at NAIAS: "This one isn't Rotary"
Submitted by Dan Mazzella on Sunday, January 8, 2006 - 3:24pm

Day one of the North American International Autoshow (NAIAS) brought us the unveiling of the long awaited Mazda Kabura, a 3+1 seat piston powered concept coupe. The concept shown at the autoshow is not rotary powered, but the comment from Maury Callam was "this one isn't rotary powered." Mazda needs to make a business case for making this car in a rotary powered version, and it won't happen without your input. Take a look at our day-one photo gallery of the Mazda Press Conference and booth, (Click here) then leave your feedback. There needs to be a flood of messages, even if the message is short, it will count.

We will have more coverage of the Detroit Autoshow tomorrow, including more technical information on the Kabura. Click through to see images from today.







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Make this into the next RX-7
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March 19, 2007 - 10:59pm
Either make this the next RX-7, or a more entry level car like the miata and I promise to purchase one. Actually, do both, make an entry level Kabura and a new RX-7. My Turbo II FC would love to have 2 new buddies!
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Mazda Kabura
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December 23, 2006 - 11:08am
I would hope that Mazda would build this car because I would buy one. I love my MX-3 and I am owner #6. Bring on the Kabura so I can own one as #1.
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Shouldn't have aRotary
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August 17, 2006 - 3:07pm
I don't thik this car should be rotary powered. I be affraid that it will have a Renesis in it and it will come out under-powered like the RX-8 did. This is one of the reason the RX-8 is not selling as good as it did a few years back. The other problem I feel is a big issue is MNOA doesn't like the idea of rotaries. most people in North America like to stick with what works, for example, push rods motors. So I think this is something that will kill a rotary powered Kabura. I can't remember when was the last time I saw a RX-8 comercial on TV.
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My Email to Mazda...
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May 5, 2006 - 11:14am
As a designer/engineer and SCCA enthusiast, I have always had a place for the Mazda lineage in my heart having owned previously and currently several models from the RX-7 to the Protoge5. After an accident (T-Boned @45mph by a driver running a red light) 2 years ago in the Protoge5 with my pregnant wife and son in the car, I was saddened to see “Buttercup” go, but became a true believer in the Mazda brand for finding the balance of safety and driving enjoyment. Such a fine balance is a very difficult thing to do.

Considering that I am also in your target market group AND in search for a new vehicle to replace my current 1993 MX-3 GS daily driver (which I love so much I have replaced my former MX-3 GS after an accident with another MX-3 GS), I recently stumbled across the Kabura concept.

I felt passionately compelled to give you some feedback after some in depth investigation. One sore point that I have had with the Mazda line has recently been the lack of a compelling replacement for the MX-3. The Mazda3 lacks the elegance of the original MX-3 design, and so I have shied away from the model.

The RX-8 appeals to my now grown-up sensibilities as well as my passion for performance. But again sorely lacking is a true replacement for what the RX-7 truly embodied. Being a parent also does not mean you should be forced into the sedan mentality especially when you already have a “family hauler” in the garage.

The Kabura concept has finally manifested the desire in my soul for what I believe is a true replacement for the MX-3 as well as the RX-7. Taking to heart the Zoom-Zoom quality, Mazda has always produced vehicles that are fantastic to drive, however my largest complaint on the MX-3 was its lack of RWD brethren. Kabura I believe is the perfect balance for both a sports coupe, as well as practicality. One thing I have learned over the many years of design is that true elegance comes not just from simplicity but also in the execution. With the limited information available, it is simple for me to see the drive and desires of the engineering and design team as well as the Mazda Zoom-Zoom “DNA”. Fantastic…

The practical person within me thinks the MZR is a good choice. The enthusiast within demands the Renesis. To offer a platform which could do both would be fantastic, however to offer the Renesis exclusively I am sure would be a cautiously optimistic decision. It was no secret that the MX-3 and MX-6 platforms shared near identical engines, and when I swapped my MX-3 engine to the KLZE, I could swear that somewhere within Mazda, a designer intentionally created it specifically so that it could be done easily. I imagine that the engineers had foreseen that the KLZE bumped up the level of Zoom-Zoom, while maintaining the vehicle within its performance envelope. I certainly hope that the same Kabura team keeps that philosophy.

In closing, I certainly hope that you bring the concept in its present form to market. The aesthetics, design, philosophy and elegance is not only refreshing, but has finally stirred my very soul. The Kabura in my opinion may have finally done what no other vehicle (or my wife) has yet to do. If brought to market, it will finally compel me to retire my dearly beloved MX-3 with a worthy replacement.

PS: I would love to help you with any research if needed even at my own cost. THAT’S how much of an impact this vehicle has on me. It’s a passionate feeling.

Cheers!

Edgar
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build this!
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April 9, 2006 - 8:06pm
if they build this with at least 240hp (rotary or conventional engine works, i just want the power) they've got a buyer right here
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Built it ... and they will co
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March 8, 2006 - 3:11pm
Built it ... and they will come.

BUT built it quickly - use a I4 with option for a Turbo or 12b Renesis.



Hoorah for the Red, White and Blue ... and now Black

Red 1990 Miata
White 1988 RX-7 10th AE
Blue 2004 RX-8
Black 1988 RX-7 Convertible
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OMFG
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March 5, 2006 - 11:00pm
Me and a number of my friends agree that this car is one of the sexyist things that we have ever seen. If it were to be made, i would buy one over my current dream car. The idea of a more practical version of the miata makes me quite excited. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE build this car!!
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Kabura Renesis
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March 4, 2006 - 10:23am
The car looks good. Better than my RX-8. Put a Renesis in and I MIGHT give up my Rx-7. More likely I'd just add it to the stable no matter what you choose to call it.

Use a 4-boinger and it's just another car for buyers to consider. I can only get passionate about a rotary, a V12, or maybe a flat opposed engine.
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Lets be realistic
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February 21, 2006 - 9:55am
Listen Mazda, the most important thing right now is to get this car to the market. The basic formula of RWD, 2+2, coupe, fun to drive, is absent in the current market! I'd buy a new MX-5 if I wasn't in college and I need backseats and a trunk. You have a great engine(the 2.0MZR) for it. You have all of the technology at hand! Build the thing!

As far as rotary goes... well, I wouldn't complain if it had one, but its not a deal breaker. I'll buy whatever I can get at $20,000 or less. I know the Renesis is at capcity currently, so I totaly understand if the Kabura is a 4cyl only car. Just build the thing please!
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Mazda Kabura
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February 27, 2006 - 11:28am
Agreed. Wonderful car. A rotary option would be great, but I'd be happy to take a 300HP Mazda/Cosworth engine from the Atlantic Series cars, or even the same 260HP engine that will be in the Mazdaspeed3.

Just build it!
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Nice
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February 9, 2006 - 10:02pm
Given the weight range, the Renesis motor would be killer in this car. However, I would rather that Mazda take the time to develop a true successor to their flagship RX-7. Perhaps even a midship RX-9? The Kabura is indeed a nice car, but I believe that more time should be invested in improving the technological aspects of the rotary and focusing on reputation; issues such as fixing the torque problem and the reliability, before fitting a rotary into the next RX, whatever it may be. Keep in mind that we are now living in a time where people are more environment conscience and that may mean a sacrifice of power for efficiency. Thus, I believe Mazda is doing the right thing by putting a piston engine into the Kabura, but hopefully somewhere down the line the rotary will rise again and destroy the likes of the next Supra and that godawful Skyline. Keep on turning, Mazda!
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A different direction for the Kabura
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February 17, 2006 - 8:03am
The Kabura is an interesting car, and could be a great platform for an RX-3. As great as that would be, I don't think it would be a Civic/Scion TC competitor nor an overwhelming sales success. On the other hand, imagine a stretched MX-5 platform that was shaped as a 2-door coupe with a modern BMW 2002 in mind. MX-5 dynamics in a 4-seater with a decent trunk would also keep Mazda form having the "problem" of 3 sports cars in the line-up. It could be a cheap project too, as much of the interior and mechanicals could be shared with the MX-5 and save costs on both cars. Keep the weight low and price it in line with the Mazda3. The Civic Si would have a real competitor at the showroom and on the track. A 2.3 MZR tuned how the 2.0 is for MX-5 duty would provide plenty of power/torque (and wouldn't hurt the MX-5 when the Solstice GXP comes out) and be cheap to run, too. Mazda is the only company that can build this sort of car, and I'll be first in line to buy!
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Mazda Kabura powerplant
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February 4, 2006 - 1:16pm
Not Rotary Powered? Why - it's just begging for it and it would be a crime for it to go without one :(


Mark
Club 323F
www.club323f.com
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Please make this car happen.
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February 3, 2006 - 9:20pm
Please make this car happen. It is absoulutely stunning . I would love to own such a beautiful looking functional sports car.
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This car would hand the TC an
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February 3, 2006 - 9:18pm
This car would hand the TC and Civic Si its ass !
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WOW!
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February 3, 2006 - 8:25pm
I saw the Kabura in the flesh at the Detroit show. WOW~! I haven't lusted after a concept car like this since the Dodge Viper. And this car is affordable and practical as well! BUILD IT! Offer a Renesis! I'll get my checkbook out!
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Kabura 4 cyl/RX-3 Rotary
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February 3, 2006 - 5:40am
Of all the pre RX-7 Mazda rotaries the RX-3 was the best selling rotary on the market in the '70's. Why not offer the Kabura in a 4 cylinder variant and provide a rotary version with RX-3 badging and revive the RX-3 once again, (for those of us who would like to drive it FAST)?

Personally, I prefer a peformance car over a show pony and I can't understand why Mazda have not offered a more affordable (for the average Joe) rotary equiped car since the '70's :S.

I think it would be in the company's best interest to release such a vehicle for the masses of rotary fans around the world (especially Australia). Many Australian rotary enthusiasts can't get enough of the RX-3 and the cars and parts are demanding and getting higher prices.

The Kabura doesn't look like an RX-7 should, give it some lights (front & rear) that are more reminisant of the RX-3,(circular), drop in a Renesis, 12A/13B-depending on weight, with a 6speed manual and some rotary cues on the exterior and interior like the RX-8 and sell it at an affordable price that the average guy on the street can afford and Mazda will be on a winner for sure!

Just go for it Mazda and DO IT!!


Cheers, Keith :)
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build it!
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February 2, 2006 - 2:40pm
While I doubt Mazda will put a rotary in it because they want to keep the cost down, I think it will be a great car with the MX-5 engine. The overall look of the car is fantastic, so besides the obvious stuff like the all glass roof, huge wheels/tires, concept car interior and headlights, I hope they don't change much.
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build the Kabura
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February 2, 2006 - 1:14pm
Mazda should build this car, it fills a whole in the market for a lightweight, RWD sports coupe. I will buy this car if it goes into production. I would prefer it only have two seats (ditch the back seat and 3rd door). I would prefer a 4 cylinder engine but would be OK with a rotary. I have been waiting for someone to make a car like this for years.
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rotary or not, it would dominate an unserved niche
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February 2, 2006 - 11:42am
Rotary or not, it has to be built. NO ONE in the American market sells an affordable, lightweight, sweet-handling, RWD sports car. The RSX comes closest but is FWD, staid in its styling, and far too common. I don't want one of those. Mazda would have the market all to itself. I know people on this board want to see a rotary, but a 4-cyl would be ok with me if that's what it takes to get it approved. Keep it simple, above all else.
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Rotary
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February 2, 2006 - 10:48am
Mazda: It's simple. Offer the Kabura more or less as is with the 4-cyl. Keep it light, refine the design just a bit while still keeping it comfortable and stylish, and give it alot of options that are independently and reasonably priced (young drivers like to personalize) and sell for less than $20k and you will sell a ton. Call it the Mazda 2.

Make a second version with upgraded race inspired styling, aerodynamics, suspension performance, and lighter components. Modify the chassis to make it a 2 seater. Throw a 2 rotor supercharged direct injection Renesis capable of running E85 fuel so it can be designated a flex-fuel car to assist with emissions law requirements. Get it to around 2500-2600 pounds and 300hp. Charge $10k-12k more and call it the new RX-7.

I will pre-order one the day it is offered.
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Love the See-Thru Bonnet
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February 2, 2006 - 9:18am
I've alread commented on how much I like this car - 2500lbs, but ditch the front chrome/weird lights/even weirder dash/wheel inside - keep the other unique features esp. RX-8 styling cues - and make it a Rotary/4-Cyl customer-order choice car.

Now the SEE-THRU HOOD design - I'm really LOVING IT! And it's pure marketing GENIUS - make a attractively designed RENISIS motor in that window - EVERYONE that sees the car - can't help but SEE and APPRECIATE that UNIQUE Rotary powerplant. The Kabura will become LEGEND...and what a personal statement... talk about exclusive....who else has that - except Ferrari? No one. I already want one to go along with my VR RX-8 Mazda...hurry!
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Please build it soon...
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February 2, 2006 - 8:30am
I absolutely love the Kabura concept that Mazda showed at
the Detroit Auto Show. I am looking to replace my
current vehicle sometime in the next 18 months. The Kabura is exactly
the type of vehicle I have been looking for: ultra-lightweight, RWD,
and a coupe. I think this car would be a nice alternative to all of the FWD entry level coupes that have flooded the market: Eclipse, RSX, Civic Si, and Scion Tc supercharged. I suggest building two versions of the Kabura: one toned down version for the masses with the 178hp turbocharged piston engine from the last mazdaspeed mx-5 miata, and one enthusiast rotary model with the Renesis from the Rx-8 pumping out 250hp. I'll take mine with the rotary...
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Just Do It
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February 2, 2006 - 8:26am
Like most people here I'd prefer a rotary, but more importantly I want the Kabura on the road regardless of engine type. Nobody is currently building a rear-drive car like this. And if I could pick any company to build a car like this, it would be Mazda, because they do this type of car right. I don't know if anyone else even has a platform on which to build a rear-drive coupe this light. This is the right car by the right company at the right time. It has to happen.
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Since I hear Mazda's watching...
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February 2, 2006 - 7:21am
I like the overall design and lines. Tone it down a bit, though, as would be expected in a production car. Smaller wheels. And redesign the front. In general, Mazda's huge pentagrilles are hideous.

While I strongly prefer a rotary engine, I'd also like to see a car to compete in the inexpensive sport coupe market - the Scions, the Tiberons, et. al. Coming in with RWD will give the Kabura instant points over its competitors.

I'd like to see the weight in the range of 2600 to 2800 pounds. I could deal with 2500, but I probably won't have to worry about the Kabura coming in that light. I drive a lot and wouldn't mind the extra comfort that a 2700ish pound car would give.

Two doors, two seats. Hatch.

Anyone who is making a connection with the FC is on the same wavelength as I.

In short, The Kabura as a two seat hatch would just make me all warm and fuzzy inside.
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