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RX-8 first of Many Rotaries?
Submitted by SuperUser on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 2:19pm

Brett Hillam and Eddie Tse were the first to write about the goings on at the Sydney Motor Show 2002. First up NEWSmotoring has this snippit: "MAZDA plans to revive the fabled RX-7 sports car. A halo brand for Mazda since 1978, the RX-7 was shelved in the early 1990s."

MAZDA plans to revive the fabled RX-7 sports car. A halo brand for Mazda since 1978, the RX-7 was shelved in the early 1990s.



The chance of bringing back the famous coupé in an all-new form has long been denied by Mazda but key platform personnel say the RX-7 is set to make a comeback along with an all-new MX-5 within two years.



It is said to be an evolution of the show car that Mazda displayed at the Tokyo Motor show in 1995.



The RX-7 and MX-5 will be off the RX-8 platform with the courageous new sports car family realising the next stage of Mazda's revival plan that was sketched in 1999.



The RX-8 set to be launched in Australia in late May next year, is already geared up for an open-top version. And in another bombshell, Mazda is said to be secretly developing ways to expand the capacity of its rotary engine.



Tricking up the rotary is a major breakthrough as the engine has essentially remained the same with, and without, turbo power since its inception on the Cosmo Sport in 1967.



Mazda powertrain managers have ruled out the chance of turbocharging the RX-8 RENESIS rotary engine but admit they are looking at ways of increasing capacity of the 1300cc two-rotor engine, bringing more naturally aspirated power to the lightweight unit.



There is also a chance that the new MX-5 could have its piston engine replaced with the RENESIS, making Mazda's sports car family an all-rotary affair.



Mazda have not officially declared that the RX-7 program is to go ahead, however, insiders with the Hiroshima manufacturer claim the car is well advanced and could be unveiled publicly as early as the Detroit Motor Show in January.



Platform and powertrain engineers are passionate about the possible revival of the coupé.



Some were said to have wanted a two-door born before the RX-8.



The RX-8 is an unusual four-door design with the two rear openings more in the mould of suicide doors which are rear hinged and open only when the front doors are open.



Final Australian specifications are yet to be confirmed for the RX-8 but it is almost certain it will come with a choice of two engine power levels and a choice of a manual and Activematic automatic transmission.



The Activematic has tip shift capability, a la Mazda6, and could have steering wheel mounted paddle shifts.

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subject:
No title supplied
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
Let's see if this is true! I doubt it, since the RX-8 is just coming out, and I'm sure they don't want to take away from sales of the 8 because of the re-introduction of the RX-7
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subject:
Please!!!11111
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
Please bring back the RX-7! I would piss myself if a prototype showed up at the Detroit show.
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subject:
Bringing back the rx-7
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
Well either way if they are going to bring back the rx-7 we have to wait 2 years. Thats a pretty long time. Since its just rumored dont know if somone would wait that long if they were going to buy an rx-7. Hope it comes true. It would probably be powered by a 3 rotor instead of a 2 rotor.
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subject:
RENESIS
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
if somone can help me with what the difference is in RENESIS and the 13b cosmos? thanks
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subject:
Some anticipation
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I would like to remain to be a firm believer that Mazda will deliver the goods. Goods meaning a coupe that would knock the socks off anyone, like myself, who's been miserably spoiled with the FD3S and possibly another revival of the Cosmo.

Emissions may have snatched the turbo from possible future buyers like myself. However, I can not rule it out completely because the RX-8 hasn't been around long enough for the engineers at Mazda to fully anticipate how some form of 'charging' can be combined to produce the same, if not more, power from the cleaner burning Renesis. Besides, who's to say a '3-rotor Renesis' cannot exceed the 13B-REW in performance?

I have bigger doubts about super charging since, even though the rotary can use more torque at lower ends, the rotary really comes to life at upper ends where supercharging only seems like a hindrance.

About information released by Mazda. Before buying my first 7, I had studied their history and was anticipating something 'special' to come out in 1997. The friendly folks who sold me my car had no idea about any special edition in the works. They were either seriously tight-lipped or the powers that be really are good at keeping surprises. Half a year after I had bought my v4, lo and behold, the RS-R came out. That yellow version was the car I could never have. I have nonetheless been more than happy with what I already had.

Before the Miata came out, I heard rumors that it would be rotary-powered. Well, it's only been done by private tuners after all. Mazda knows and finds its roots deeply ingrained with the rotary engine. The RX-8 will probably not let many people down; however, I agree that this deafening silence concerning the RX-7 is indicative that it IS in the works, only depending on how the sales with the RX-8 goes.

The newly designed ports for the rotary is the start of a new era for them. If I were Mazda, I'd want to get as much data off the Renesis for at least a couple years to see how much 'boost' is needed to revive a car worthy of the RX-7 name AND coupe that would make anyone drool.

My prediction. Everthing started in 1967 (not really, just the sales) and I feel 'something' will come back to life to commemorate either the 35th or 40th year for rotaries. I will not rule out 2007 either.

Am I going over the top? I think so. I'm a believer!
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subject:
DMRH
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
Just a reference to the note from the Sydney newspaper that stated the RX-7 was ddropped in the "early 90's". I'm not sure how you reference 1998 as the early 90's.

Mazda produced the "series-6" version from 92-95 & exported that throughout the world. from 96-98 the "series-7" version was sold in Japan & AUSTRALIA.

Thus, the last year for the Rx-7 in Oz was 1998.
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subject:
No title supplied
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
The Last 3rd generation RX-7 FD3S was a 2002. The last one rolled of the line in september.
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subject:
Why no turbo?
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I'm a recently new rotary enthusiast, but I'm wondering if anybody has ideas as to why Mazda has no plans (that we know of) to mke a turbo Renesis? I wonder if it might be due to that ridiculous Japanese horsepower restriction (around 285 or something)? Ideas?
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