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RX-8 Rollout Comments Wanted
Submitted by SuperUser on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 10:35am

With the proximity of the RX-8 release and the lack of real hard facts on the 8, RotaryNews wants to poll the enthusiast, as to your own personal feelings on how Mazda is releasing this information or lack thereof. We are also very curious to find out, at what major auto-shows do you think Mazda should release/unveil/display the RX-8 production car next year and why?


There was some very vocal disappointment that the RX-8 was not shown at the L.A. Auto-Show and a few other major venues at the beginning of 2002. So, we want to take this opportunity to ask all of you to voice your opinions and comments, please hit the "Add a Comment" link, and post your opinion. Also, check out the poll on the left hand side of the homepage. Your opinion could count!

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subject:
Their website doesn't support modern browsers
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I Can't!!
They don't support a modern browser like Netscape 7 or Mozilla!!! This sucks!

They say " MazdaUSA.com is optimized for Internet Explorer versions 4.x and 5.x and Netscape 4.x.To experience the most from this site you can download Internet Explorer or Netscape."


Well, IE just sucks, and Netscape 4.x is way too old.

Is mazda going to have a surprise on their hands when all 35 million AOL subscribers go to Netscape in a short time.

Wake up Mazda!!! most rotary enthusiasts choose to be different! This includes our choice of better browsers!
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subject:
No title supplied
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
My only real request is that the Mazda Public Relations get in the public, there are a lot of people who are skeptical with the wenkle and in my opinion the rotary should be plugged and showcased well in advance to the car.
I belive that if the renesis is indeed going to be released this january the the new powerplant should have already been in race applications, and well documented.
I hate to say this but I think the people in mazda need to set back the release date and incorporate the raceing application and the engines tolerances to joe public in promotions and advertising, use the race car and the RX-8, Mazda if the car wins on the track you will win on the showroom.
As per the lack of info before the launch of the RX-8, it is just probably a case of running around with the new mazdaspeed, the new protege, the new 6, The next car to get plugged is the 8. But what needs to be done is a build your own 8 on the websites and preordering of cars, sunroof options, free tour of leguna seca with the purchase of the 8, or free mazda speed stuff to say $500 on anything from the turbo to coats and hats.
Mazda has to creat the hubbub again about their car, and deliver. the lack of info I don't think is bad, it just frustrates the enthusiast, I don't care anymore as long as they make the car, don't want Mazda to decapitate this project like the RX-7, but if the quality and performance is a promised this automobile well be around for a long time, and Mazda will get their image back. Zoom Zoom
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subject:
Mazdausa
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
Well, Yes, The MazdaUSA site does not allow other bowsers to get in, a Huge mistake IMHO...

However, you can find a Spoofer to allow the User Agent of your browser to show up as IE or any other browser.

Anyhow, I looked on the site and did find the RX-8 Page..

http://www.mazdausa.com/rx8/home/default.asp?sniffer=1&zip=&did=&state=

(Those with alternative browsers should be able to access that link)

And, once again, it really contains no new information, other than the fact it now appears on MazdaUSA.com, and says "Summer 2003" The Specs are those that have been around since Detriot in January 02. . . or before. The News section is cool though... Confirming the X-Men Movie deal, A link to Rotary Racing history, and another link to a story I did for Mazda Performance Corner about SS5.

Other than the bowser thingie, I don't think the MazdaUSA people are doing a bad job... I really like the Performance Corner, http://www.mazdausa.com/mazdaspeed/ (not browser dependent)

I'd like to see more content right off the front page, but I suppose the homepage is more of a marketing tool than a news and information tool... It takes a few clicks to get to the good stuff. . . Something GUI designers would cringe at, however! :)
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subject:
dissapointment
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I was extremely dissapointed that the RX-8 wasn' at the Chicago Auto Show.... Mazda introduced the Miata at Chicago, and its not like its a "small" show... The LA Show is one thing... but I've never been impressed with the LA show it almost always seems like the end of the previous year's show cars... and the Detroit show runs at the same time.

I asked someone at the Chicago show why the 8 wasn't there and they told me because it was on its way to Geneva... but they did point me to a bunch of looping video clips of the 8... come on get a clue lets start seeing this car and drumming up some support from not rotary-head....the car has got to sell or we could really truly witness the end of the rotary engine....
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subject:
Rx8
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
The RX8 is now one of the most popular car. The big mistake of Mazda was let Nissan give the 350Z to the world before the RX8.
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subject:
marketing
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
Do you guys remember back in I guess it would have been like '91-'93 when Mazda went on that huge product blitz and relasease the MX-3, the 929, 626,MX-6 and even the RX-7 (isn't it sad that for the most part these cars aren't even made anymore)... they had those teaser commercials where they showed the car covered in a car cover and they kept saying what day it would be revealed... I thought that was totally awesome stuff... I remember watching tv the whole day trying to catch a Mazda commercial so I could see what the car was.

I think Mazda needs to just start sneaking the RX-8 into every Mazda commercial... maybe just like one of the cars on the road or parked on the street like an Alfred Hitchcock type cameo.....
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subject:
some info... maybe?
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
www.thecarconnection.com just sent me an e-mail telling me that next week they are going to have some info about the Mazda RX-8... I don't know what but maybe check it out next week.
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subject:
MORE MORE MORE...
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I think mazda has done a piss poor job of getting real info out there. Summer 2003 release does not do it for me. I have a deposit down on one and would like to at least see the options and colors that will be available. I mean come on the 350 Z had a site with all of that running a year before it was out. Sorry but I'm just a bit anxious about the return of the rotary.
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subject:
RotorHead
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
if you want to see the new RX-8 in action just go to http://www.mazda.co.jp click on the japanese website and go to RX-8 click on movie and enjoy.
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subject:
RX8 at Anaheim's auto show
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I went to the opening of the Anaheim auto show and there was no RX8 on display, what a dissapointment. Further disapointing was to see how Ford has invaded the Mazda brand with those ugly trucks, the Mazda trucks look like Fords with a Mazda batch, how sad to see this. I hope Ford does not get their noses into the rotary engine. The worst thing that could had happened to Mazda was to get bought by Ford. I do not know if I like Mazda anymore.

Jaime
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subject:
Rx-8 opinions
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I really think that the rx-8 is crap. to modern looking. Um i'd prefer the fc over the rx-8 any day. instead of brining in the rx-8 they should bring back the rx-7 in the U.S.
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subject:
About Auto Show
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I heard that they have the new infiniti g35...
and that in a magazine it stated that it was an "american skyline" people need to actually bring the real stuff in here!!!. especially the gtr models. (nisan skyline)
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subject:
To Jay
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
Hey they are still producing rx-7 in Japan. I think Europe is the only one buying a bunch of them. It really is sad that US has stopped importing them. And now they bring out this crappy thing they call an "rx-8". sorry but for my opinion i really dislike it. Right now i'm not really up to date so my info can be wrong. but pretty sure they had the car produced till 2000.
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subject:
The emperor's clothes?
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I've had a deposit down on one of these puppies since Jan 2001. Boy was I excited then! Stupid me, I thought it was close to production back then yet! Now-a-days, I'm constantly haunted by the thought that it is STILL BARELY in embryonic form somewhere at Mazda R&D. Evidenced by their EXCUSE that they have to ship the (apparently ONLY) ONE show car all over the world, that they never show the engine (is their one in there? I doubt it.) and that getting any solid info about it is like holding on to a greased pig.... I would guess my waiting is just beginning... again.

Come on Mazda, fess-up, do a respectable roll-out of this car or admit it's way late and behind schedule(?). Insult to injury, to date, their ..ah hem.. marketing of the car is so sad that it flies in the face of the definition of the word. Personally, I'm fed up. My guess is you are now alienating the very best marketeers you need most, the die-hard rotary enthusiasts.
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subject:
specs
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
Anyone take notice of the fact that all of the available info about the RENESIS now says: "targeted 250 hp"? First we had 2l80hp, then 250hp and now a "targeted" 250hp. My take on this is that the number won't hit the mark. C'mon Mazda folks, wake up... I can now get a Honda Accord with 240 hp and it costs alot less. Combine that with the fact that they won't show the engine and the release date keeps slipping later and later... that is cause for concern.

PS. Mr. Ford... if you are out there... please for the love of all that is holy quit messing around with Mazda. My grandfather was a ford salesman and I STILL WILL NOT BUY A FORD. That should tell you something.
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subject:
Silence can be deadly
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
For the past few years I have gone to the Cleveland auto show in hopes of seeing something about the RX-Evolv or RX-8 or even the new RX-7, but nothing. Every year I have gone over to the corp rep and asked about any new information on the new rotary and why it was not at the auto show. They always tell me that Cleveland is not a big enough market for them to put forth the effort to even display a rotary prototype. Mostly what was on display was what ever the local dealers came up with. Since I purchased my '88 RX-7 people would pull me to the side and tell me how much they loved RX-7s or how they knew someone that really love this car more than a person should love a car. I also found out that there is a large group of Puerto Rican RX-7 enthusists on the other side of town. I know that these guys would love to see a rotary prototype come through town. Even Porsche and Corvette owners have told me how much they admire RX-7s.
I have been watching the way that Nissan has been promoting the new "Z" and wondering why Mazda has not done the same. It leads me to this conclusion. Either Mazda is going to spring a big suprise with the release of the RX-8 or they are setting themselves up for failure. Either way the silence can be deadly for the competition or for the RX-8.

P.S. Much props to whom ever it was at Mazda who came up with the idea to promote the RX-8 in Playstation's GT3 and the new X-men movie. Also thanx to the "Fast and Furious" guys for reminding us who the import speed king is.
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subject:
No title supplied
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
i dont think mazda is doing too great of a job launching this vehicle. im waiting and waiting, and there have been very little new information, events, or developments for months. i am slowly losing interest and find myself more and more interested in the G35 coupe / 350Z twins. i loved my mazda MX6 and i love the RX7 and the rotary engine, but if i was in the market to buy a car right now, chances are that i would have made the switch to nissan.
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subject:
This is no 'Z'
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I love the RX-8. I know pretty much everything that has been published in the form of press releases, reviews, and from hours of searching for tidbits of info online. I'm aware of this car largely because (like everyone else who is waiting for this car), I am an RX-7 enthusiast, and i have the drive to find this limited information. Wether or not the silent approach in marketing the RX-8 is the right approach for Mazda remains to be seen. I just dont see the logic in silence however, because the future of rotary engine development, the "RX" name, and Mazda's own identity is resting on the success of this god damn 4-seat Audi TT/S2000 hybrid...one would think they'd put as much into the marketing of the RX-8 as say parent company FORD puts into the focus, thunderbird, and mustang.
Ask the average joe who makes the 350Z and they'll know if anything else its a Nissan....ask the same guy about the RX-7, i'll guarantee you'll see these (???????????) coming from his un-aware and un-informed ass. So goes the future of the RX-8.
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subject:
RX-8 Release
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I definatly want to own a Mazda RX-8, I currently own a 323 and it is my first car. I want to own that beauty but at which price? I have talked with a Mazda dealer here and he said that the retail price of the RX-8 should be around 40 thousand dollard (CDN)

I personally think that Mazda should release it's RX-8 production car within the 2003 year because it has been waited since the last RX-7.

-Frank
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subject:
X-rotary engined cars owner
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
It is my belief that Mazda should not only give out more enticing info about the RX-8 that's becoming available in 2003, but also display the car at all the upcoming auto shows prior to its arrival. The RX-8 is my dream car.
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subject:
Problems or smart move
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
My first concern is the pushback on the launch dates. Is the Renisis having failure problems? Many of the specs for HP are "targeted". They've been working on this for at least 10 years. Why "targeted"? Or is Mazda waiting for a better economy to launch the RX-8 so it doesn't bomb?

Mazda has been toying around with teaser RX-8 stuff now for years. Nissan got their act together and pulled the trigger on a really fast marketing campaign for the new 350 and coupe. I bet quite a few RX-8 buyers are eyeing up the new Infiniti.

Also, the RX-8 seems to be a symbol of Mazda's identity while they're banking their marketing dollars on the new 6.

Regarding the auto show, I went to the LA show expecting the RX-8 to be there but it wasn't. Uh, they couldn't even trailer an Evolve 40 miles from Irvine??? If the RX-8 doesn't consistently appear at most of the major shows this year (Chicago, LA, NY, etc) something must be seriously wrong. I'll be at the Chicago show.

I am still excited about the RX-8 and have the downpayment set aside, but what's the deal?
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subject:
Cincinnati
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I'd love to see the car in Cincinnati (or someplace close like Columbus, Lexington or Indianapolis). But that is just because I live in Cincy.

I really hope that Mazda at least releases what shows they are going to have the RX-8 at before NASIS so I know if I need to convince my wife we need to drive to Detroit in January.
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subject:
See What I can dig up
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I'll see If I can have Mazda send me a list of show appearences for the 8 next year. . .
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subject:
No title supplied
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
I totally agree that Mazda's competitors won't be rushing out to build rotary powered vehicles... but unfortunately, to the majority of the mass car-buying public, a rotary isn't a good (or the only)reason to pick a "fast" car over another. price, price, price.
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subject:
Understandable
author:
No Rotor
date:
December 31, 1969 - 4:00pm
With the end of the year releast of the Mazda 6, I think it is understandable from a marketing POV to try to delay the hype for the RX-8 until next year. I don't like it, but I could see the Mazda 6 not getting any attention at all if the RX-8 were released at the same time.

SFO autoshow is in November where I'm hoping that at least bring that old yellow version for me to see, though I'm fully expecting only a Mazda 6 as the centerpiece.
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